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Connecting with John Maxwell: Asking Questions

By Michael Duduit | Preaching magazine Executive Editor

I think that's a failure we make. We kind of say, "I have this great truth"—which we do, the Word of God—"I have this great truth, so I'll just deliver it; and it'll change lives." The truth doesn't change lives until people are ready to accept the truth, and they're not willing to accept the truth until they've accepted you and me. That's where it all starts. Once people buy into me and I have bought into them and who they are, then we can start making some movement and connecting.

Preaching: How do you know when you're not connecting? What are some signals for a pastor?

Maxwell: Many pastors don't know they aren't connecting. I think the reason is because they are in a world that is not only their world, but the people in their congregation also are in that world. I think the congregation basically has not realized they lack relevance. So it is the old expression "preaching to the choir."

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I think to solve this problem we all ought to carry a gong around with us. Remember the "Gong Show" —when the speaker wasn't good, they were saying something that wasn't very good or people didn't want to hear? They'd just go up with the mallet and gong them, and it was over. I'm thinking if we all carried gongs, when we're at a dinner conversation, somebody's talking and everyone else is glazed over, somebody ought to gong them.

Do you understand that you're talking but nobody's home? I think it is because we are self-absorbed. Self-absorption is the absolute killer to connecting with people. We need the willingness—and it takes a will—to get out of our world and go into their world and find out what's important to them.

I do a lot of speaking in the corporate community, and I have a wonderful exercise in which I have a deck of value cards that I give the team, especially when I'm dealing with senior management, senior leadership positions. I have them take the deck of cards out; they basically go through all the values, and they take the ones they like versus the ones that are not important to them. We break it down, break it down, break it down. In a 40-minute exercise, I get them to hold just the final two cards, the two most important value cards. Without showing the cards to anyone else, I have them pair up and try to guess what the two most important values of the other person are. About 75 percent of the time, they don't know. Now here they are, management in senior leadership, and they don't know the two most important values of their partner or colleague.

We don't know. Why don't we know? We don't know because we really don't want to know, don't care to know, or it's not that important to us. We have our agenda. We have our world. We have our message—and it's killing us. How quickly the barriers can be broken down when we go into their world and find out what their values are, find out what their dreams are, find out what their temperament is so they respond based on that. I mean, we've got to get out of our world; that is the issue of connecting. Connecters always are willing to risk leaving their world to get into the world of the person they're trying to reach.

Jesus, of course, modeled that continually in the gospels. The Master Connector was always where the people were, was always asking questions that would stir their hearts a little bit, always connecting with them, always putting them first—then out comes the message. I just don't think we do a good job at that. I think we basically feel more secure in our world; so that's where we've decided to live, then we wonder why we don't connect.

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